Posts by joey jojo

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Bible says God confused peoples languages at Babel....is this childish nonsense?

by Witness 007 in

yeah so in genesis we read how people began building a tower which would reach up to jehovah in heaven....must have been damn tall....rather then just stop them, god changes everyones language.....one guys speakin french.....another speakin russian and so on!

can't finish the tower now can they!!

this is not very scientific......does anyone believe this is how languages got started???

joey jojo

If you want to read the most recent, official WT version of this event, with all of its omissions,mis-quotes, mis-direction and straw-man arguments, here is the link: https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/wp20130901/did-languages-come-from-the-tower-of-babel/.

We all know the story. it basically makes the claim that the Tower of Babel event occurred in 2200 bce. Up until then, there was only 1 language, which the WT claims was Hebrew, form this quote:

'Up until some point after the global Flood, all mankind “continued to be of one language [literally, “lip”] and of one set of words.” (Ge 11:1) The Bible indicates that the language later called Hebrew was that original “one language.” (See HEBREW, II.) As will be shown, this does not mean that all other languages stemmed from and are related to Hebrew but that Hebrew preceded all other languages.'

(https://www.jw.org/en/library/books/Insight-on-the-Scriptures/Language/).

A 5 minute google search - that a child could perform and understand, tells us this:

In 2500 bce, there were already at least 4 major, verified language scripts, Egyptian, Indus, Sumerian and proto-Elamite.

How can WT possibly try to claim everyone in the world spoke hebrew before egyptian?

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Is Jesus the Creator?

by Sea Breeze in

that's what the word says.

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colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..

joey jojo

Halcon
But wait, wasn't the thought of a burger what triggered your neuro chemical reaction?
Yet rivergang and yourself claimed that the metaphysical phenomena of thought and emotion always follows the chemical reaction.

I cant speak for rivergang but I'm not sure I made that claim.

Food is a basic human need. You do not need to be thinking about food to 'feel' hungry. That feeling is a chemical reaction that comes from the brain reminding you to eat. Because I thought about a burger and how great they taste, it triggered an instant response that I assume was my brains reward system anticipating what a burger would taste like.

Maybe I was 'feeling' a little hungry before I started thinking about a burger?

Thoughts trigger 'feelings' and 'feelings' trigger thoughts. I think it goes both ways but then again Im not a neuro-scientist.

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Is Jesus the Creator?

by Sea Breeze in

that's what the word says.

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colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..

joey jojo

Halcon
The feelings of empathy, kindness and consideration are simply byproducts of a chemical reaction?

Yes. However I would say there is more to this, like a person's culture or background that could play a part. For example, females tend to feel more guilt than men, they are more likely to choose a career that involves a caring or supporting role.

The brains reward system is powerful. Its a constant battle for everyone to recognise the dangers of seeking short term gratification and the dopamine reward that comes with it, over long term, sustained effort.

Resisting the bodies natural urge to eat more than we need to achieve a long term goal is harder than eating a nice juicy burger every day. Now I feel like a burger. Just writing this produced a neuro-chemical reaction that made my mouth water. 🍔

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Is Jesus the Creator?

by Sea Breeze in

that's what the word says.

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colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..

joey jojo

Halcon
Do love, fear and hate...hope and dread ...fall under the category of 'physical' or 'metaphysical'?

They are metaphysical in the sense that feelings cant be observed.

However, they are closely related to physical in the sense that a physical event may cause feelings of fear, anxiety, arousal etc. The 'feelings' we experience are caused by neuro-chemical reactions.

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Is Jesus the Creator?

by Sea Breeze in

that's what the word says.

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colossians 1:16. for by him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created through him and for him..

joey jojo

I suspect All of the posters on this thread critical of the unbroken chain of evidence on the deity of Christ from the eyewitnesses of the Resurection down to the present day DO NOT accept the biblical definition of our soul and spirit as PERSONS in the bible.

Nobody witnessed the resurrection.

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January 2025 Letter to the Elders

by blondie in

jw
friends

i used to send my comments on these letters to atlantis, so i will share them here if that is okay, if not, i'll still do it.

:) 1) medical matters: (technology has arrived) listing of hlc members is not online and updated regularly, but only elders have access, not for general circulation.

(and in case the reader of the letter needs clarification) copies should not be made for publishers or on the information board (!).

joey jojo

The purpose of the HLC has always been confusing to me.

The elders I knew that were on it were some of the most pretentious wanna-be's. The JW's are all about image and public perception but they have managed to find a way, via the HLC to piss off well meaning medical staff and non-witness families with threats of legal action concerning how a JW patient is treated.

It is a great example of how much power and control the organisation has on its members. They have to be involved in the most vulnerable parts of their life.

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Jesus Christ Will Arrive Within The Next Four Minutes! (parody)

by Nathan Natas in

yes, you read that correctly!.

jesus h. christ will arrive within the next four minutes!

in fact, by the time you read this, he may have alreadt arrrived!.

joey jojo

Don’t concern yourself with pesky ‘facts’ from reliable sources

I know right. Experts are the biggest idiots.

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Jesus Christ Will Arrive Within The Next Four Minutes! (parody)

by Nathan Natas in

yes, you read that correctly!.

jesus h. christ will arrive within the next four minutes!

in fact, by the time you read this, he may have alreadt arrrived!.

joey jojo

JESUS H. CHRIST will arrive within the next four minutes! In fact, by the time you read this, he may have alreadt arrrived!

Obviously you mean he must have arrived invisibly because I cant see him. I just know what you say is true because you have used the internet to confirm that you arent a crackpot.

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